Archive for the ‘Postal Service’ Category

Times Plaza Post Office Follies: Bad Week for Mail

March 10, 2008

If you live on Boerum Hill and you were waiting for your mail last week, there is a chance that it didn’t show up on several days. We saw a significant number of emails complaining about skipped deliveries, including one who was counting the number of days that her New Yorker was overdue. Here’s the latest:

I have seen several posts over this past week about undelivered mail on several blocks. I have experienced the same on my block of Bergen between Hoyt/Bond,
our (odd number side) only. I just received priority mail yesterday dated 2/27 mailed from downtown Brooklyn. The mail was sporadic for two days this past week. Many neighbors on my block experienced the same. I have filled out the survey on line and have seen the posts for so-called improvement. I was at the Times Plaza PO on Tuesday and I waited for for over 20 minutes for the certified mail to be located and this was with the pink slips. The postal worker couldn’t find one of them. What is our next plan of action as a community?. We have tolerated this for much too long! Things seem to improve for a week and then they worsen to a level that was lower than before action was taken. Patiently awaiting my New Yorker…

And this possible explanation:

When my regular carrier brought 2 days worth of mail yesterday, he told me that there is a new supervisor who is just learning how things work. That may be one of the factors. Nonetheless, non-delivery of mail is unacceptable. So, can the people who have been working with Times Plaza continue the process they have already started? In addition to everyone posting problems here to created a record, what can we all do to help? How quaint the “nor rain, nor snow. . .” postal commitment sounds in this context where our carriers are “stay[ed] . . . from their appointed rounds.”

And, it’s only Monday morning.

Bklink: Which Post Office Sucks More?

March 5, 2008

“So, which Brooklyn Post Office bites the most? Is it the Kensington Post Officer, where the guy was went postal on the famous YouTube vid last year? The Times Plaza Post Office, whose horrors could generate its own blog? Or the Ninth Street Post Office in Park Slope, whos suckitude has also been well documented? Possibly one not even listed here?–Brownstoner

More Fun With Post Offices: New Complaints

March 5, 2008

These newest complaints from Boerum Hill are of a specific nature, but interesting in terms of some potentially new obstacles that residents face. Here’s one:

I just came back from the post office to retrieve a package I had tracked; the information online was that a notice had been left (it wasn’t – or it may have been left at another house). This happens frequently, not just to me, but to others…I mentioned this to the nice woman who usually mans the last window and she told me it had just been announced that the carriers or sorters will write on the package that a notice was left “to cover themselves” – this was the PO’s solution to the problem of complaints about notices not being left. She said it “proves” that a notice was left. All it proves to me is that someone wrote on a box that a notice was left; not that a notice was actually left.

She also told me that from now on, if a carrier or sorter does not think an address is written “perfectly” (no apartment number, an incompletely written name, perhaps a first initial only, etc), then he or she has the discretion to write “no such address” if they like, and return it to the sender, undelivered. She said these announcements were just made. So it sounds to me that this is not a solution to the mail problem, but a way of allowing the post office to continue to operate badly and “cover themselves” in the process.

Just a little something to brighten on a gloomy Wednesday morning.

Return to the Times Plaza Post Office: Not Fixed

March 3, 2008

We do love our Boerum Hill/Atlantic Avenue Times Plaza Post Office stories, particularly given the coverage we’ve done recently, for instance, here and here. So, here’s a angry email from the Yahool Boerum Hill Group that would indicate that claimed service improvements may not be taking place:

had a horrendous, Third World experience at the Times Plaza on Friday afternoon Feb. 29th. Two boisterous customers yelling loudly to each other and to the clerk for fifteen minutes, while those of us trapped on the long line cringed. Two (or three at most) clerks working. No special line for package pickup. Very disgruntled customers, loudly commenting on the bad service.

When I left, I mentioned to the clerk at the door that I was amazed that no one had been murdered in there–the aggravation and the tension level was so high.

Then, on Saturday, we received incorrect mail meant for three other households. What happened to the promises made at the Boerum Hill meeting??

We will add to that this description from an email on the Park Slope Parents list about the famous Times Plaza Station, which fell into our inbox via a devoted reader:

I have never had a package or letter that needed to be signed for delivered by them! I can be at home, or the nanny can be at home, but they will not ring the bell so that you can sign for and accept your package. They just put a “redeliver” slip on the mail box and leave. Then when you sign the redeliver slip, they never pick it back up and never deliver your item! I was in an hour and a half line once again over the holidays, taking off work to sign for something that my nanny could have signed for at the time that they first came. I complained to a female manager, and four or five people around me in line were there for the very same reason, and they were all home at the time the postal person first came! The manager took our information, but nothing has changed….

Did the manager promise to keep tabs on things for signs of backsliding?

Some Improvements at Boerum Hill Nightmare Post Office?

January 31, 2008

It just could be that the way to get improvements at a Brooklyn Post Office that everyone’s unhappy with is to start a campaign of collection complaint that make their way into online, print and television media. So it is with Boerum Hill’s Times Plaza Station, aka the Nightmare Post Office. (A couple of weeks ago, we featured some details of the problems here and here.) There was also a News 12 story on the issue. There are actually signs that things may be improving, including an email on the Boerum Hill Group that says things are better:

went to the post office last week to mail packages. you can tell that they are very aware of the complaints. every teller was working, they’ve cleaned up the forms table and i could hear construction going on in the back. the manager was out front helping people with the self-postage machine and answering questions. two days later, a package was delivered when i was there and handed to me with a smile. its working!!!!

Meanwhile, some neighborhood representatives met with postal official last week (Archie Warner, the Manager of Customer Service Operations from the Brooklyn Postmaster’s Office and Andrea Burrows, the Customer Relations Coordinator). Here’s some detail about that get together, in which the postal officials noted that “frustration was evident” from the community, but that managers in the postmaster’s office weren’t always aware of service problems. They said a search is underway for a better space for the station and also promised to look into problems with package delivery. As for bitter complaint about the service offered by clerks at the post office they said “The Brooklyn Postmaster has personally spoken with each clerk about this issue, and there will be job-related repercussions if no improvements are made, or if improvements turn out to be of a temporary nature.” Also:

An agreement was reached that the entire community will look for the promised changes in the post office, and will promptly report any problems. Such a report should contain the name of the clerk (all clerks are required to wear name tags) and/or the clerk’s ID from the receipt. By the same token, exceptionally good service should also be reported, with the clerk’s ID…It was furthermore understood that if improvements fall short of expectations, or are not maintained indefinitely, this matter will be brought before the press, the politicians, and the Postmaster General in Washington DC.

We know there will be follow up on this one.

Boerum Hill’s Nightmare Post Office on TV

January 18, 2008

News 12 did a report on the Times Plaza Station in Boerum Hill that we’ve been posting about all week (and it turns out that some of the emails we from residents that we related were featured in the story). Someone posted the vid to YouTube, so check out the embed below, especially noting the woman talking about how it can take hours to get things done.

Related Posts:
Boerum Hill Assoc. Wants Times Plaza Post Office Replaced
Going Postal: The Times Plaza Post Office Chronicles, Part II
Going Postal: The Times Plaza Post Office Chronicles, Part I

Boerum Hill Assoc. Wants Times Plaza Post Office Replaced

January 17, 2008

From the Boerum Hill Association comes an email calling for the replacement of the Times Plaza Post Office, the frustrations of which we featured in two posts (here and here) earlier this week. Here is the email making the rounds from the Boerum Hill Group:

The Times Plaza Post Office has been a source of neighborhood anger and frustration for decades now. Long lines, unprofessional staff, and of course, undelivered packages. BHA volunteers and many others have met with Times Plaza managers over the years (nobody seems to last long) and our elected officials. We are always promised improvements, but fixes, if any, are modest and short-lived.

For this reason the BHA now demands that Times Plaza be replaced. The facility was outgrown decades ago, but because USPS only rents the space, they cannot make the changes necessary to run it efficiently.Continued neighborhood growth, plus Atlantic Yards, will only make the situation worse. We’ve been patient for 30 years. It’s time to start fresh.

To make this a reality, turn your anger into action by taking the yearly BHA Post Office Survey, available here. We will organize the results and begin a public relations blitz to the media and our elected officials insisting that we cannot continue to have the worst post office in the city. We started this survey back in 2003 to give us hard data on the magnitude of the problems at Times Plaza. Each time we repeat it we strengthen our case that the problems are not getting fixed, and every response gives us a louder voice.

Thank you in advance for your help in this effort. Together we will one day have a real post office. The kind that delivers packages, restocks its stamp machine, and treats its customers with respect. Please spread the word.

Should be an interesting conversation.

Going Postal: The Times Plaza Post Office Chronicles, Part II

January 15, 2008

Yesterday, we posted a number of complaints about the Times Plaza Station on Atlantic Avenue between Third and Fourth Avenue. There were so many that a resident collected to send to a manager at the Postal Service who professes interest in fixing the situation that we decided to break the post into two parts. Here are more observations:

Having gone through what everyone regularly complains about, and writing letters, speaking with the manager, etc., I finally gave up and now have all my packages go to a friend’s Manhattan business location. I try to NEVER have packages sent directly to me. If, unfortunately, I must go and wait on line there, I always take a book to read in order to endure how long I will likely be ignored. (I also try experiencing everyone’s lousy attitude as if I’m in some sort of weird theatre. In order to avoid being angry for hours afterward I now go there EXPECTING to be miserable – like a trip to the dentist!)

I never try picking up a package there until a few days after their “attempted delivery.” I now know that if I go too soon it will likely be “on the truck” and I’ll just have to go back. (The fact that they never ring my bell is a given.) So I wait until I know it might be sitting on their shelves. If I need to mail a package I either use one of the UPS mailing centers or I walk the extra distance to the main Brooklyn Post Office near Borough Hall. I also take packages with me when I visit friends on Long Island or Upstate, NY. I know this sounds crazy but hauling the packages is less painful. I also have all other important mail sent to Manhattan as well…These adjustments have reduced my reliance on the Times Plaza Post Office to the absolute minimum. If I could reduce it to zero I’d do it in a NY minute. However, I remain friendly with the local mailman. He seems a nice person.

And there is this:

In my experience the most messed-up part of the 11217 post office is the window for picking up packages or held mail. I was there this Saturday 1/5 – to be fair, it was a busy post-holiday time and I arrived at the post office about 40 minutes before closing – but so little effort was made to expedite the long line or even be polite to those of us waiting that it really was ridiculous. There were about a dozen customers in the line when I arrived, and the first two or three customers were dealt with at a speed of approx 15 minutes EACH. This is for picking up packages or mail where people had their slips, and where it *looks* anyway like all the packages are alphabetized by last name and lined up neatly right there…Two of those first 3 people didn’t get their packages at all. Several others in line behind me – by now I would say there were 20 of us – left in frustration at how slow the line was moving.

And this:

3 out of 4 times I bring a package slip to the window, the person will disappear for up to 15 minutes to look for it (no exaggeration) and then they come back to tell me that it’s not there. If it’s not there, WHERE IS IT??? One time, I brought a slip to the window, the person told me they could not find the package, and I pointed to a package that clearly had my last name marked on it. It turns out that this was ANOTHER package for me, that I had not even received a slip for!

This:

I hate it! Once I waited on line for forty-five minutes, only to have one postal worker lower her window and go on a break, while the only remaining one continued a long, long chat with a customer.

And, we’ll wrap with this:

As a business in the area, I never get packages. If I do get a pink slip it is usually missing information I need to pick it up. My store opens at 11am and has for almost 4 years, yet they can’t deliver packages to me when I’m open, which is frustrating. I’ve also tried the online pick ups, but it usually takes 2-3 days and a phone call before someone picks up my packages. I’ve switched my store to using ups/fedex as often as I can…On the opposite note, Bing, our letter carrier, is a dream! He comes in and gets my outgoing mail when he drops off the incoming. He carries stamps in case i need to buy some, and he always has a smile and a kind word.

Always good to end on an upbeat note.

Going Postal: The Times Plaza Post Office Chronicles, Part I

January 14, 2008

Complaints about and evaluations of postal service in Brooklyn never fail to amuse and enlighten. This one is about the Times Plaza Station on Atlantic Avenue between Third and Fourth Avenue. The comments come via the Boerum Hill Yahoo group, where a member has solicited and collected comments from readers to share with the officials at the post office. This is not the first time Boerum Hill residents and the Boerum Hill Association have tangoed with this particular post office. (Nor is this the first time we’ve posted about people’s problems with mail in Boerum Hill. There is this post, for instance, and this post.) In any case, here are a few excerpts from a very long list of emails expressing deep affection for the Times Plaza Station. The person who collected them writes to the postal official to whom she sent them, “We would appreciate hearing from you what the course of action from the Brooklyn Postmaster’s office will be, what we can expect in terms of changes and improvements, and what the time-table will be to implement these.” We start with this:

My daughter, finally, finally finishes her ten college applications- My daughter, finally, finally finishes her ten college applications…We walk over to Plaza Station, relieved, nervous, proud. Lines are long, but that’s okay. Finally, it’s our turn at the Automated Postal Center (as they have trademarked it). And one by one, we weigh the manila envelopes containing her extra materials, opt (thank god!) to send them certified mail (in case, god forbid, we’ll need to track them), slap the labels on– and send them on their way! And now they’re coming back. One by one. Insufficient postage. Two showed up yesterday–each one 39 cents short. According to the tracking, three more are trying to make it back to us. A fifty percent failure rate.

And what are we supposed to do now? Get the postmaster or postmistress to write letters on my daughter’s behalf? “Dear Carleton College, Please excuse Eliza for missing her deadline. It wasn’t really her fault“? I’ve been reading a book of letters that John and Abigail Adams sent one another, when he was in Europe and she was in Massachusetts. I think they had a better success rate getting their mail through than we do.

And this:

One of the most common complaints seems to be failure to deliver packages,
leaving a note and not knocking or ringing the bell. The postal rules once required that a second — and third– attempt to deliver be made. Now only one seems to be the rule. The laziness of the postal carriers must account for their failure to climb the stoop steps. One of my favorite bad experiences: I was in line (very slow moving) and watched a clerk arrive behind his window. He then took 10 minutes (I timed it) to put on and tie his tie! A couple of years ago, but representative of the clerks’ attitudes. No manager ever stays very long — we make contact, promises are made, things get better. Then the manager leaves and everything reverts to “normal.'”. Any clerk who is responsive to the customers soon leaves. No doubt pushed out by the other clerks.

I do not go there any more, choosing to spend more money on UPS. I order my stamps by mail, a great service. My husband in the early 70s was writing letters to the postmaster general, congressmen, senators — and here we are more than 30 years later with everything the same. Good luck.

And this:

I recently moved to the neighborhood and am shocked by the poor service provided by the PO. I have had THREE separate packages returned to sender. One more package was permanently lost. No notices were left at my address alerting me to the packages at any time. The times I have been forced to venture to the actual postal facility were most discouraging and frustrating. The stamp machine never works
(why is there only one?), the lines interminable, the package window is rarely open, and the facility is dirty and unkempt…

We could go on, but we will wrap up with this:

We have had so many awful experiences at Times Plaza that I don’t know where to begin. As a matter of fact, I now use an address in Dumbo as a way of avoiding the post office on Atlantic Avenue as much as I can. In any case, here is the most recent fiasco from Times Plaza…In mid-December, my father, based in Sweden, sent me a large box of books. When they attempted to deliver the very large cardboard box, I was not home so they left it outside my house at 181 Wyckoff Street in the rain. It was not stolen, as it might have been, but almost all of the 30 books in it were ruined by the rain. I used to live in Iran, and I can confidently say that the level of mail service in this area is worse than that third-world country. I also used to live in Sweden, a country in which a post office manager proudly saying that they manage to deliver 95% of mail (like someone at the Brooklyn head office said to me a couple of years ago when I called to complain about service) would lead to the person being fired. 5% of mail gets lost?! That’s something to be proud of?

There are so many tales of despair and woe that we’ll continue with Part II tomorrow.

Park Slope & Prospect Heights Mail Sucks Redux

October 22, 2007

There’s nothing like a good postal rant (or two or three or four or five or six) to brighten the day. Today, we’ve got two, found on the Park Slope Forum at the always interesting brooklynian.com. Rant Number One:

Everyone knows there’s ‘issues’ with our mail carriers in the slope. I’ve had it all: Lost checks. Mail tossed on floor. Netflix DVD’s viewed and taped back together then placed in our box!?! Wrong mail. No mail. Mail for delivery never picked up. Lost packages.

So I emailed the USPS and received a call back today. The supervisor says my usual postal carrier is on ‘limited’ work, something about not allowed to work more than a certain amount of hours. So they have random carriers covering for him. He tells me that recently I’ve had the same mail carrier for 3 days now and he’s talked to the person and I shouldn’t have any problems anymore.

So basically my block never has a constant mail carrier. So far I’ve got some guy regularly for the past 3 days. He’ll probably not drop the mail on the floor today, but what about next week when another guy is sent to cover this block? Is this happening on other blocks? No full time, regular assignment postal carriers?

Give it a while and the same problem will happen again. It’s been going on for as long as I’ve rented here.

Rant Number Two:

WTF is up with Brooklyn mail? I’ve never lived anywhere like this. I’ve had stuff perfectly addressed to me sent back with “NO SUCH ADDRESS” stamps, only to be put in a new envelope TO THE EXACT SAME ADDRESS and arrive. Eventually. I’ve had zero mail delivery for days, and then stuffed full one day. I can’t even count the number of things that have just “disappeared” that I found out about, much less the ones I didn’t. Seriously, WTF. I have everything important that I can sent to my work now.

Oh, and there’s also someone in Bed-Stuy who says that his Time Out NY always disappears. Excellent, excellent stuff.